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Title: Starter Motor
Post by: malcolm on Sep 18, 2023, 10:38 PM
Looking to replace the starter motor for 2.25 petrol any recommendations.
Plenty to choose from after search online.
Title: Re: Starter Motor
Post by: geoff on Sep 18, 2023, 10:50 PM

Fix the old one  ???  ??? 
Title: Re: Starter Motor
Post by: malcolm on Sep 18, 2023, 11:32 PM
have ordered brushes but was wondering if the aftermarket are any good. 
Title: Re: Starter Motor
Post by: Alan Drover on Sep 19, 2023, 07:48 AM
If you want to go the whole hog then get a high torque starter motor.
Title: Re: Starter Motor
Post by: Bloke on Sep 19, 2023, 08:06 AM
I have the Powerlite one fitted to mine. Works great:

https://www.paddockspares.com/starter-motor-57.html

(Remember Series 2 Club members get 10% off at Paddocks)

Tom
Title: Re: Starter Motor
Post by: geoff on Sep 19, 2023, 01:40 PM
I've used aftermarket brushes on a 2 litre and a 2.25 engine, working well so far.
If you don't have a big soldering iron let an auto sparks fit them for you, cheap to sort out as a skim on comm if needed
Title: Re: Starter Motor
Post by: Craig T on Sep 19, 2023, 01:48 PM
They can fail in ways other than brushes.

The original starter on my 2286 petrol engine was likely the reason the Land Rover got abandoned before I found it as it didn't work even after a rebuild with new brushes.

It span over fine on the bench and looked great but it simply wouldn't turn over the engine. After charging the battery, changing the battery, checking leads etc. I took the starter apart again and circuit tested it according to the earlier series 2 workshop manual.
One of the windings on the armature was open circuit so the starter wasn't working on all the coils. Plenty enough to spin it on the bench but not to turn the engine over.

Fortunately I had a spare starter lying around so I tested that one, swapped out the armature into the original casing as I wanted to keep the 1967 dated one, and then it worked a treat.

Craig.
Title: Re: Starter Motor
Post by: Maarten88 on Sep 19, 2023, 02:02 PM
Another fan of the high torque one here!
Title: Re: Starter Motor
Post by: malcolm on Sep 20, 2023, 12:44 PM
Thats the concern take the thing apart fit new brushes test and still the same, seem to be 1 step forward and 2 back at the moment. Think i will order replacement is there a difference with starters for early 2.25 petrol.
Like the idea of powerlite but trying to keep costs down.
Title: Re: Starter Motor
Post by: biloxi on Sep 20, 2023, 01:14 PM
Quote from: Alan Drover on Sep 19, 2023, 07:48 AMIf you want to go the whole hog then get a high torque starter motor.
If the 2.25L engine was designed to be started with a crank handle, why do you need a high torque starter ?
.W.
Title: Re: Starter Motor
Post by: Alan Drover on Sep 20, 2023, 01:31 PM
Because it takes far less current than the old school inertia starter and it's much easier than hand cranking. Most importantly it doesn't require the downpipe to be removed to get it in and out.
The WOSP high torque starter motor on my 2.5 petrol engine is rated at 1400 watts (almost 117 amps) far less than the original.
Title: Re: Starter Motor
Post by: Craig T on Sep 20, 2023, 01:55 PM
Quote from: malcolm on Sep 20, 2023, 12:44 PMThats the concern take the thing apart fit new brushes test and still the same, seem to be 1 step forward and 2 back at the moment. Think i will order replacement is there a difference with starters for early 2.25 petrol.
Like the idea of powerlite but trying to keep costs down.

Any starter for a petrol 2286 should fit fine.
The same starter was even used on the second version of the 2 litre series one engine and I believe it was still in use right through until the 2.5 engines came around in the 90 / 110 models.

Craig.
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Post by: geoff on Sep 20, 2023, 02:10 PM

I have a 2.25 starter in my 2.0 litre engine  :RHD

Correct / original dated one being refurbed atm
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Post by: John on Sep 20, 2023, 02:32 PM
Quote from: Alan Drover on Sep 19, 2023, 07:48 AMIf you want to go the whole hog then get a high torque starter motor.

I had one of these starters on my 2.25 petrol before I went TDI, it was well worth the cost :gold-cup
Title: Re: Starter Motor
Post by: geoff on Sep 20, 2023, 02:42 PM
Quote from: Alan Drover on Sep 20, 2023, 01:31 PMMost importantly it doesn't require the downpipe to be removed to get it in and out.


Never ever had a SII or a SIII 2.25 Petrol where I needed to take the the exhaust off for a starter motor  :confused  :confused
Title: Re: Starter Motor
Post by: island dormy on Sep 20, 2023, 04:50 PM
  I Can get the starter out of my 2.25L Dormobile as well with out removing the exhaust pipe but you have to tip it just right to do it.

  I always liked the way the starter shop used to test a rebuilt starter, which was clamp it in a vise get it spinning then jam a 2x4 into it, if it made sawdust out of the 2x4 it was deemed good and ready to go.

  Victor