Quote from: GlenAnderson on Today at 12:08 PMI once carried a full 20litre jerrycan a bit over a mile. Never again.

Exactly. My physics teacher at school told me mass is constant. Well, it's not. And anybody who has ever carried anything heavy over some distance knows that after a while anything heavy gets heavier and heavier...
Richard

Finished stitching and refurbing my (Leather cover) series steering wheel at last, not too bad a job once I cracked on with it.

I use two 5 litre jerry cans, one for 4 stroke and the other for 2 stroke.
Every time I take my Land Rover out I have to remove a 22kg wheel clamp and replace it back home which is good exercise.
20 litres over a mile is seriously heavy.
I have a 20 litre jerry can but not much use nowadays as modern petrol doesn't keep.

1 gallon (of water) weighs exactly 10 lbs.

Petrol/diesel is a little lighter so say 8 lbs.

20 litres is just under 4 gallons so you'll have 35+ lbs in the can, plus the weight of the can.
That's quite a load. Better to carry 2 cans, one for each arm to balance things out 
As you know the outer handle bits were to allow 2 people either side to carry the can between them

PS
I always thought that jerry cans were 5 gallons 
Have they shrunk over the years or am I misinformed

I tend to use a little 5 litre plastic can for the lawn mower (lasts me about 1 year of mowing).
I get some surprising looks when filling up the LWT - hose in through the front door.
Great ... means I can pull up any side of the pumps. Never been refused service.

I once carried a full 20litre jerrycan a bit over a mile. Never again.

Hi,

From a personal perspective and requirement ....

I am (or was) 70" tall, and Barbara is (or was) 64" tall, but we both had a 29" inside leg measurement. From memory, a 109" Land Rover is 3" higher than an 88". Can any confirm those last comparisons?

I say "or was" as people tend to shrink with age.

Our personal dimensions suggest that my back is 3" longer than Barbara's. There are other factors (that I won't go into here) that affected Barbara's ability to clamber up into a LWB.

Then there was the matter of parking my trucks in my garage,

SWBs could drive or reverse into my garage, but a LWB (with full hard-top) could not be reversed in. My drives (2) had a 1:8 slope, right UP to the entrances into the garages (2).

A not so obvious phenomena meant the the roofs also continued to rise, after entering either garage, until the wheels reached the horizontal garage floor. Not a problem with SWBs, but the rear "hamper" (behind the rear axle) would plough into the up-and-over garage door, with the extra height of the LWB, (due to bigger tyres), not helping things. That could be critical to some owners. I believe the body sits an inch higher on the LWB, as the chassis rail is deeper in section.

Which reminds me of a visit to Olympia, in London, some years ago (LIVING IN FRANCE EXHIBITION). A high-top Transit van had joined the LONG queue between the highway and the entrance to the multi-storey car park. It wasn't until he reached the kiosk, that he realised that his van was too tall.
 
I'll leave you to imagine the chaos of dozens of vehicles having to reverse out of the car park into a busy London High Street, complete with the queue of vehicles behind the queue. 

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Quote from: Betsy1969 on Today at 08:34 AMYou must be strong to carry 5 litres any distance unless it's not very far. I once had to carry a 5 litre can about a mile and a half from the petrol station back to a car which had run out and my arms were nearly dropping off.

It's about 300 yards so no problem. I don't know about a mile and a half though. Although 5 litres doesn't appear to be that heavy it's surprising how heavy it becomes over a long distance.
I can carry a Wolf wheel and tyre tucked under one arm ( but only very short distances).

Quote from: Bigdog on Yesterday at 07:37 PMWhy are 109 series not as popular or desirable as the 88 series

For the same reason that some people like Brussels sprouts while others prefer spinach.
.W.

Only ever had one petrol station object to the door being open. They actually wouldn't turn the pump on and when I went inside to explain they came out to look at the vehicle, once they saw the tank was indeed under the seat they were happy.

Their reason was they get people driving off without paying for fuel and the scroats that do so like to leave the driver door open so they can make a quicker getaway.

I've owned two 109s, a S3 Stage One and the present S2a, but I've recently test driven two (S3) 88s, the one really good, the other one extremely good. But I still prefer the 109, for shear practicality and the less bumpy drive. I've never had the impression my 109 was less of a classic than an 88. I visited two Land Rover gatherings recently and nobody came up to me and said: "That's a nice 109 you got there, shame it's not an 88". Reading this thread made me aware of the fact that some see something of a class difference?

I try very hard not to be too bothered by what others think. With limited success. But I think human beings have a need for acknowledgement, appreciation, recognition from others for who they are, how they are, for the choices they make, be that the decision to turn away from God, marry someone of the same sex, vote Lib Dem, hate overhopped beer, or drive a 109. So I don't think it's strange people are swayed by what others say or think. (You could fill several libraries on this subject, but I'll stop here )

Richard