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Title: Model making
Post by: 22900013A on Aug 03, 2023, 05:07 PM
If you recall, we had a great thread on model kit series vehicles on the old forum, now sadly all lost it seems.
Anyway I've been back at it with this 1 Ton conversion for the revell 1/24 scale series 3.
The set includes beautifully moulded wheels & tyres, and a set of spacers to give appropriate clearance for the bigger wheels. Longer propshafts are also included. The end result looks really good, although the standard kit axles are used, not the ENV or Salisbury type.
Title: Re: Model making
Post by: Wittsend on Aug 03, 2023, 05:32 PM
Not lost ... Archived HERE (https://www.series2club.co.uk/new_forum/index.php?topic=13148.0)


 :RHD
Title: Re: Model making
Post by: 22900013A on Aug 03, 2023, 05:37 PM
I find often if I try to view the threads they won't load. Anyway, glad it survived.
Title: Re: Model making
Post by: Craig T on Aug 04, 2023, 09:01 AM
That is looking good. Who makes the one-ton conversion parts?

I have the Revell 109" series III station wagon and have the conversion kit to make it into a 2A and off course will model on it on my own 1967 wagon. Just need to think of a way to change the door hinges. I was going to say I need to make a 4 cylinder engine too but looks like Motobitz have just released one so that will save some time.
https://motobitz.uk/kits--trans-kits.html
They also do 88" conversion kits which may be interesting.

As for the other forum, I have just looked for the old thread and found it but I too get the "Call to undefined function shell_exec()" warning. All I do is press the refresh page button a couple of times and it does load after a while.
 
Craig.
Title: Re: Model making
Post by: 22900013A on Aug 04, 2023, 07:49 PM
The 1 Ton conversion is by C1 models.
I see motobitz have two 88" conversions but I can't see a difference between them?
I'll eventually do a IIA 1 ton I think, possibly as a wrecker.
I think someone on the old thread was talking about 3d printing the IIA hinges?
Title: Re: Model making
Post by: GHOBHW on Aug 04, 2023, 08:28 PM
a friend of mine showed me this kit the other week.

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/ak-interactive-ak35013-land-rover-88--1466863
https://ak-masters.com/app/pdf/AK35013_guide.pdf

from scrolling through the PDF it is surprisingly detailed, insanely so actually....with correct hinges!
Title: Re: Model making
Post by: BradfordS2 on Aug 04, 2023, 08:51 PM
Quote from: 22900013A on Aug 04, 2023, 07:49 PMThe 1 Ton conversion is by C1 models.
I see motobitz have two 88" conversions but I can't see a difference between them?
I'll eventually do a IIA 1 ton I think, possibly as a wrecker.
I think someone on the old thread was talking about 3d printing the IIA hinges?

From what I can tell the only difference between the 2 Motobitz 88" transkits is in the hard top sides. One is plain van sides and the other is with windows, export style though not Station Wagon.

Nice work on the One Ton conversion too, I also have one of those with the crane kit and pick up conversion. Had a look at the 88" transkits but they are quite expensive. You get a lot of parts, mind!
Title: Re: Model making
Post by: 22900013A on Aug 04, 2023, 09:56 PM
Quote from: GHOBHW on Aug 04, 2023, 08:28 PMa friend of mine showed me this kit the other week.

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/ak-interactive-ak35013-land-rover-88--1466863
https://ak-masters.com/app/pdf/AK35013_guide.pdf

from scrolling through the PDF it is surprisingly detailed, insanely so actually....with correct hinges!

Yeah I've got all three of those. A bit over complicated for such a tiny kit. Some of the parts are practically microscopic.
Title: Re: Model making
Post by: 22900013A on Aug 04, 2023, 09:57 PM
Quote from: BradfordS2 on Aug 04, 2023, 08:51 PM
Quote from: 22900013A on Aug 04, 2023, 07:49 PMThe 1 Ton conversion is by C1 models.
I see motobitz have two 88" conversions but I can't see a difference between them?
I'll eventually do a IIA 1 ton I think, possibly as a wrecker.
I think someone on the old thread was talking about 3d printing the IIA hinges?

From what I can tell the only difference between the 2 Motobitz 88" transkits is in the hard top sides. One is plain van sides and the other is with windows, export style though not Station Wagon.

Nice work on the One Ton conversion too, I also have one of those with the crane kit and pick up conversion. Had a look at the 88" transkits but they are quite expensive. You get a lot of parts, mind!

Yes I did spot that when I looked again, not very obvious. Really hoping someone does the hinges as they are an obvious point of difference. To backdate to an early IIA the rear wheel arch profile would need changing too, the one in the kit is only right for 1970 onwards.
Title: Re: Model making
Post by: jonhutchings on Aug 05, 2023, 03:39 PM
Quote from: 22900013A on Aug 03, 2023, 05:07 PMIf you recall, we had a great thread on model kit series vehicles on the old forum, now sadly all lost it seems.
Anyway I've been back at it with this 1 Ton conversion for the revell 1/24 scale series 3.
The set includes beautifully moulded wheels & tyres, and a set of spacers to give appropriate clearance for the bigger wheels. Longer propshafts are also included. The end result looks really good, although the standard kit axles are used, not the ENV or Salisbury type.

Dunno about Salisbury axles The blue 109" in the background looks like it's come from  near Salisbury plain :) I love the weathering. The slightly leaking rear hub oil seal is perfect. Really lovely model. I imagine the 1 Tonne will be equally good when finished.
Title: Re: Model making
Post by: Ben2a on Aug 05, 2023, 10:00 PM
Quote from: 22900013A on Aug 03, 2023, 05:07 PMIf you recall, we had a great thread on model kit series vehicles on the old forum, now sadly all lost it seems.
Anyway I've been back at it with this 1 Ton conversion for the revell 1/24 scale series 3.
The set includes beautifully moulded wheels & tyres, and a set of spacers to give appropriate clearance for the bigger wheels. Longer propshafts are also included. The end result looks really good, although the standard kit axles are used, not the ENV or Salisbury type.

Hey Dan Looking good! Dad say he can't make ladder racks that small  :RHD  #oldtimes
Title: Re: Model making
Post by: Ben2a on Aug 05, 2023, 10:02 PM
You could find someone with a 3d printer to make model axle casing  ???
Title: Re: Model making
Post by: 22900013A on Aug 05, 2023, 11:29 PM
Quote from: jonhutchings on Aug 05, 2023, 03:39 PM
Quote from: 22900013A on Aug 03, 2023, 05:07 PMIf you recall, we had a great thread on model kit series vehicles on the old forum, now sadly all lost it seems.
Anyway I've been back at it with this 1 Ton conversion for the revell 1/24 scale series 3.
The set includes beautifully moulded wheels & tyres, and a set of spacers to give appropriate clearance for the bigger wheels. Longer propshafts are also included. The end result looks really good, although the standard kit axles are used, not the ENV or Salisbury type.

Dunno about Salisbury axles The blue 109" in the background looks like it's come from  near Salisbury plain :) I love the weathering. The slightly leaking rear hub oil seal is perfect. Really lovely model. I imagine the 1 Tonne will be equally good when finished.

If I did it anything like my Salisbury plain trips the whole thing would be brown! That's actually mid grey by the way, but that and marine blue do look similar in photos.
Title: Re: Model making
Post by: 22900013A on Aug 05, 2023, 11:30 PM
Quote from: Ben2a on Aug 05, 2023, 10:02 PMYou could find someone with a 3d printer to make model axle casing  ???

I don't know anyone with one. Would be handy for making winches etc too.
Title: Re: Model making
Post by: Rustandoil on Aug 06, 2023, 07:45 AM
If you like your models R/C

https://www.fmshobby.com/pages/rc-car
Title: Re: Model making
Post by: 22900013A on Aug 06, 2023, 12:41 PM
Quote from: Rustandoil on Aug 06, 2023, 07:45 AMIf you like your models R/C

https://www.fmshobby.com/pages/rc-car

That looks great and not stupid money. A bit of paint and detailing and you'd have a really nice model.
Title: Re: Model making
Post by: Rustandoil on Aug 06, 2023, 04:56 PM
Yes, there are a few easy things to improve it, or just enjoy it out of the box.
I'm going to have to get one as soon as Modelsport get stock.
Title: Re: Model making
Post by: Craig T on Aug 07, 2023, 08:47 AM
I have two of the AK Interactive kits, the station wagon and the recovery truck.
 
As mentioned, they are very nice but they are small being 1:35 scale. I did point out a few errors or anomalies on the other thread.
The tropical roof on the station wagon gets wider at the front, the fan belt arrangement is a bit odd, and the clutch release is a series III type but hey, at that scale you are never going to see the clutch release cylinder I guess.

I have a 3D printer so could print new axles, 2286 engines etc but you can't just tell the printer what you want and out it pops. You need to make a 3D CAD model of it first and that is the tricky bit to be honest.
I made an outboard engine for a lifeboat I built a while ago. Took 3 hours or so of modelling to make the 3D file on the screen, 30 minutes to print it.

Craig.
Title: Re: Model making
Post by: 22900013A on Aug 07, 2023, 06:50 PM
How difficult do you think it would be to do IIA hinges? The revell  commercial body has a side opening tailgate with hinges that could be used as a mould?
Title: Re: Model making
Post by: Craig T on Aug 08, 2023, 10:12 AM
Not sure on the hinges. I would need to model them in the CAD system at full size then scale them and have a go at printing.

I doubt my filament printer will do them, simply too small for the printer resolution but worth a go I guess. Possibly worth finding someone or a company with a resin printer and get a batch of 100 hinges done as the cost would likely be the same for 100 than one, the cost is all in the setup really rather than machine time.

Of course there are four different hinges to make for a IIA. Top and bottom are different and then you need left and right hand versions. For the station wagon you would need two sets as well for the front and rear side doors.

Craig.