I've got the front and side internal trim pieces from a 1965 Station Wagon to tidy up and install, but I can't find any pics anywhere of how these fit together. All the other Station Wagons I see seem to have this as one piece. Anyone know? Does one piece overlap the other? Is there a missing (triangular?) piece from the front (the screw holes indicate there might be) or was this cut in half at some point? Any pointers welcome - I've exhausted the parts catalogue and online pics and not found any equivalent of this trim in 2 pieces.
I have the exact same trim on my 67 station wagon. They go as you have them, attaching on brackets with self tappers. With mine the mirror fixes across both at the joint. The cutouts at the ends are where they fit around the roof line inside, above the doors, they are installed after the headliner, if you have it, and then they hide the headliner attachment brackets.
It looks like there were sun visors based on the witness marks.
Does this help? Mine's a 1965 SW and this trim is original - I haven't taken it out yet, so if you want to copy it - by all means.
Thanks both, that's perfect. So helpful. I was beginning to think I was going mad trying to find anything similar. :cheers :gold-cup
Interesting that piece is different to the 109" station wagon but I think I can see why....
As your trim pieces slot over and below the gutter just above the door opening, it couldn't be one piece. On the 109" wagon they only go under the gutter, they are cut off straight at the top level with the side of the gutter so a one piece trim can be fitted in place.
On the 109" station wagons we get long gutter trims called cant rails I think? These are strips of steel with hooks on the back that slot over the gutters and screw to the gutter at the front and centre door pillar in the middle. They are split, two per side so they are only 4 feet or so long. These are covered in thick foam and then trimmed to match the seat material, grey in my case.
These trims cover up the gap at the front that was removed from the white trim across the top of the windscreen. You can see the cant rail trims below in my photo, they are probably 3" or so tall, quite a chunk of padding.
Probably an irrelevant post to be honest buy hey, interesting to me none the less.
Craig.
Quote from: Craig T on Aug 04, 2023, 09:21 AMInteresting that piece is different to the 109" station wagon but I think I can see why....
As your trim pieces slot over and below the gutter just above the door opening, it couldn't be one piece. On the 109" wagon they only go under the gutter, they are cut off straight at the top level with the side of the gutter so a one piece trim can be fitted in place.
On the 109" station wagons we get long gutter trims called cant rails I think? These are strips of steel with hooks on the back that slot over the gutters and screw to the gutter at the front and centre door pillar in the middle. They are split, two per side so they are only 4 feet or so long. These are covered in thick foam and then trimmed to match the seat material, grey in my case.
These trims cover up the gap at the front that was removed from the white trim across the top of the windscreen. You can see the cant rail trims below in my photo, they are probably 3" or so tall, quite a chunk of padding.
Probably an irrelevant post to be honest buy hey, interesting to me none the less.
Craig.
Cheers Craig - interesting to me too. I'll have to re-read to make sure I understand the difference. I also have padded (single piece) side rails to fit, but was just trying to get my head around the front bits first.
I had looked at a photo you'd uploaded of your 109" SW in my quest to understand how my parts fitted and I did therefore wonder whether the 88" and 109" were different. :cheers
bit late to the party, but here is mine. built december 63, registered 64...missed the 63 year by about 3 days..
mine never had a mirror or sun visors fitted.
I assume you have the 3 brackets you need to fix it to the vehicle? they fit on the windscreen bolts, then you screw the trim to them
I think the one piece is a later addition, I had one on a 1971 109 station wagon.
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Interesting that piece is different to the 109" station wagon but I think I can see why....
As your trim pieces slot over and below the gutter just above the door opening, it couldn't be one piece. On the 109" wagon they only go under the gutter, they are cut off straight at the top level with the side of the gutter so a one piece trim can be fitted in place.
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I always knew there were one-piece and two-piece windscreen trims, but had never worked out why!
I am assuming the difference is between the 88" and 109" models rather than a date, early and late thing?
My 109" was built 25th of April 1967 so one of the earlier suffix D chassis numbers.
I didn't realise 88" models got the gutter trims or cant rails. I always assumed they were a 109" only thing as the middle row passengers sit higher than the front driver and passenger so it is quite easy to hit your head on the roof gutters when sitting in the middle and exiting the doors.
I always assumed sun visors came as standard as well in the station wagons, seems not.
Craig.
Quote from: Craig T on Aug 04, 2023, 11:42 AMI am assuming the difference is between the 88" and 109" models rather than a date, early and late thing?
My 109" was built 25th of April 1967 so one of the earlier suffix D chassis numbers.
I didn't realise 88" models got the gutter trims or cant rails. I always assumed they were a 109" only thing as the middle row passengers sit higher than the front driver and passenger so it is quite easy to hit your head on the roof gutters when sitting in the middle and exiting the doors.
I always assumed sun visors came as standard as well in the station wagons, seems not.
Craig.
on my 88" the gutter trim only covered the rear seating area, had trim everywhere else like normal though.
I was always curious about sun visors too, very handy to have, yet a lot didn't have any at all.
same for the inside rear view mirror, mine never ever had one and I have a ton of period photos of station wagons without them too. guess it depends who was using it ???
On the subject of the roof lining trim above the screen. My 1970 12 seater had a single full width item with internal sun visors fitted both sides.
The two piece as pictures I have not encountered but would be interested to know if it is date specific or only fitted in 88".
My 88" side trim only covers the rear area. I therefore don't understand why the 109" was different, other than a choice - the side bits don't reach the front either. I think the 2-piece front trim became one-piece at some point - that's how it appears in my late IIa optional parts catalogue. Sadly I don't have any fixing brackets GHOBHW - do you have any photos or diagrams of what I'm missing? Cheers, J
a bit hard to make out in these images, but they look to be one piece, so maybe it is just for 109s
the B reg is obviously a 64 and the other is from 1962
a little edit, i just realised the 62 one has sun visors and a rear view mirror, 64 only has a rear view mirror, i have quite a few pictures of 88s from this angle too, only 1 has a rear view mirror and no sun visors. must've been up to whoever was ordering ???
Quote from: Mycroft on Aug 04, 2023, 12:55 PMMy 88" side trim only covers the rear area. I therefore don't understand why the 109" was different, other than a choice - the side bits don't reach the front either. I think the 2-piece front trim became one-piece at some point - that's how it appears in my late IIa optional parts catalogue. Sadly I don't have any fixing brackets GHOBHW - do you have any photos or diagrams of what I'm missing? Cheers, J
I have the fixings somewhere, I'll get some photos in a few minutes - they are pretty simple, I bet you could make some up in a day.
Interesting photos there GHOBHW, I hadn't seen those before. Interesting to note the 10 seat version there has the wider grab rail on the back of the centre seat. It was reduced in width sometime before my one was built in 67 as can be seen in the image below.
So chances are the gutter trim or cant rail is the same in the 88" and 109" as the split in the rails on mine is at the back of the rear side door. I believe the side window panels were the same for 88" and 109" so guess the trim rails were also the same length. The 109" just got an extra padded rail that went over both the side doors and butted up to the white panel above the screen.
Craig.
sounds right for the rails, on my old 109 it split in half there too. a lot of things shrunk over time in land rovers, earlier door hinges were thicker, cappings were thicker plus slightly longer on the inside on the door cappings, tailgate cappings lost a lot of metal between the s2 and 2a.
these belonged to the general post office, they were very standard, compared to most of their 88" station wagons. as they were just used as buses mostly.
I'll dump some of the photos here, as I'm sure everyone will find them as interesting as I do, plus it kind of relates to station wagon discussion.
the 109 ones are nice, just reminds me how nice they look, plus where could you find another 12 seater 4x4 in the 60s :RHD
I have a ton more, but these are the most standard, rest have a lot of stuff that doesn't relate well to the 'normal' land rovers.
these pictures show the interior trim nicely too, plus help out for how they would've looked/how bits fit
Very nice photos, thanks for posting them all.
I need to modify my side steps to have two supporting rails under them, not just one.
Good to see the lack of tailgate hinge brackets on the rear crossmember on both the 109" models and notice how the 12 seat version didn't get the extra station wagon badge, only the 10 seat version did.
I'm sure there are other little details I will pick out when looking closer. I love a good station wagon thread. :cheers
Thanks again
Craig.
So 12 seater did not get the badge?
Quote from: GHOBHW on Aug 04, 2023, 12:57 PMQuote from: Mycroft on Aug 04, 2023, 12:55 PMMy 88" side trim only covers the rear area. I therefore don't understand why the 109" was different, other than a choice - the side bits don't reach the front either. I think the 2-piece front trim became one-piece at some point - that's how it appears in my late IIa optional parts catalogue. Sadly I don't have any fixing brackets GHOBHW - do you have any photos or diagrams of what I'm missing? Cheers, J
I have the fixings somewhere, I'll get some photos in a few minutes - they are pretty simple, I bet you could make some up in a day.
Perfect - thanks GHO. I actually may have those somewhere, so will have to do a deep dive. If not, as you say, not too difficult to make some replacements up :cheers-man
I like the spare number plate for trailer bracketed to the drivers door card without blocking the map pocket.
Maps remember those!
Quote from: 2286 on Aug 04, 2023, 12:42 PMOn the subject of the roof lining trim above the screen. My 1970 12 seater had a single full width item with internal sun visors fitted both sides.
The two piece as pictures I have not encountered but would be interested to know if it is date specific or only fitted in 88".
I've gone through the Service Newsletters and I can't find any date-specific reference to explain if/when the 2-piece front trim became one or whether this only applied to the 88", sadly. Nor is it clear from the Optional Equipment brochures I've got.
Quote from: 2286 on Aug 04, 2023, 01:36 PMSo 12 seater did not get the badge?
I think it was a tax thing, if i remember right, the 12 seater got classed as a bus, so didn't get the station wagon badge for that reason.
and the number plate in the map pocket was for trailers, pretty handy if you were towing 6 different trailers each day
does anyone know what the white thing near the chassis number plate is? looks to be screwed/tacked on.
might be just another manual type of thing to say what to do or a fitting list, but I'm not sure
100% a tax thing, look at that, cheaper buying a 12 seater than a 10 seater, by £300 on the petrol version
this is a september 66 sales brochure.
It was indeed a tax thing.
In the UK the ten seat model got classed as a car so it was subject to purchase tax, kind of the forerunner to VAT I think. A 12 seat model however would be classed as a bus and therefore a tax free commercial vehicle. Land Rover took advantage of this and developed the 12 seat model to fill that loop hole. They dropped the station wagon title and badges from the 12 seater to differentiate between the two although the 12 seat one still seemed to appear in the station wagon brochures of the time.
In the UK the 10 seat model became very rare if it was ever sold. Mine is only a 10 seat model as it's really an export version that got taken off to Malta soon as it was built.
I have seen a price list somewhere of UK models around 65 - 66 and I think the tax free 12 seat version was very close in price to the 7 seat 88" version which was subject to the purchase tax.
There you go, just seen the post above and the 12 seat version is actually cheaper than the 7 seat! :confused
Craig.
Quote from: Craig T on Aug 04, 2023, 02:12 PMIt was indeed a tax thing.
In the UK the ten seat model got classed as a car so it was subject to purchase tax, kind of the forerunner to VAT I think. A 12 seat model however was classed as a bus and therefore a tax free commercial vehicle. Land Rover took advantage of this and developed the 12 seat model to fill that loop hole.
In the UK the 10 seat model became very rare if it was ever sold. Mine is only a 10 seat model as it's rally an export version that got taken off to Malta soon as it was built.
I have seen a price list somewhere of UK models around 65 - 66 and I think the tax free 12 seat version was very close in price to the 7 seat 88" version which was subject to the purchase tax.
Craig.
beat you by a few minutes with the brochure and you're right, it was cheaper buying a 12 seater than an 88" station wagon, crazy. didn't even notice that
Makes you realise why genuine 88" station wagons are pretty rare things too. Compared to the cost of a hard top version you really had to want one to pay the price.
Craig.
Quote from: Craig T on Aug 04, 2023, 02:19 PMMakes you realise why genuine 88" station wagons are pretty rare things too. Compared to the cost of a hard top version you really had to want one to pay the price.
Craig.
what I want to know is why the GPO bought about a thousand or more 88" station wagons from 2, 2A, 3. when a normal land rover would've done the job for cheaper.
my 88" former GPO station wagon came in a batch of 45 other ones. they had batches of 100, 150, sometimes. they got their moneys worth I guess cause some were still kicking til the 90s...
I imagine they must've paid out a few hundred thousand or more in taxes by the end of it. unless they had some rules or something to get by it ???
but as you say, they're pretty rare these days, even more so with people taking the tops off and changing them out for tilts etc over the years.
Quote from: GHOBHW on Aug 04, 2023, 12:57 PMQuote from: Mycroft on Aug 04, 2023, 12:55 PMMy 88" side trim only covers the rear area. I therefore don't understand why the 109" was different, other than a choice - the side bits don't reach the front either. I think the 2-piece front trim became one-piece at some point - that's how it appears in my late IIa optional parts catalogue. Sadly I don't have any fixing brackets GHOBHW - do you have any photos or diagrams of what I'm missing? Cheers, J
I have the fixings somewhere, I'll get some photos in a few minutes - they are pretty simple, I bet you could make some up in a day.
Blanchards sell the middle fixing. Do you know how it fixes on by any chance? The manual diagram seems to show it with the screw holes upwards and flange pointing down, but that doesn't feel right.
Quote from: GHOBHW on Aug 04, 2023, 02:25 PMQuote from: Craig T on Aug 04, 2023, 02:19 PMMakes you realise why genuine 88" station wagons are pretty rare things too. Compared to the cost of a hard top version you really had to want one to pay the price.
Craig.
what I want to know is why the GPO bought about a thousand or more 88" station wagons from 2, 2A, 3. when a normal land rover would've done the job for cheaper.
my 88" former GPO station wagon came in a batch of 45 other ones. they had batches of 100, 150, sometimes. they got their moneys worth I guess cause some were still kicking til the 90s...
I imagine they must've paid out a few hundred thousand or more in taxes by the end of it. unless they had some rules or something to get by it ???
but as you say, they're pretty rare these days, even more so with people taking the tops off and changing them out for tilts etc over the years.
As a quasi-government contract, I don't believe the GPO would have been subject to purchase tax, but am not 100% sure.
I found some of my older pictures before I sandblasted them.
these were to remind me which way they go too...looks like downwards is right, judging from where the washers sat on the brackets. but I'm not 100% sure..
so hopefully someone else has a better memory or pictures of their rebuild
Intuiting how it holds together, maybe the central piece connects the 2 separate trim pieces, with the flange holding the connected parts in the drain channel?
This pic answers my question.
Quote from: Mycroft on Aug 04, 2023, 03:12 PMIntuiting how it holds together, maybe the central piece connects the 2 separate trim pieces, with the flange holding the connected parts in the drain channel?
yes the longer one holds the middles together, not a lot holding it up there when you think about it, but it works :cheers-man
Quote from: GHOBHW on Aug 04, 2023, 03:28 PMQuote from: Mycroft on Aug 04, 2023, 03:12 PMIntuiting how it holds together, maybe the central piece connects the 2 separate trim pieces, with the flange holding the connected parts in the drain channel?
yes the longer one holds the middles together, not a lot holding it up there when you think about it, but it works :cheers-man
Thanks. If I can't find the brackets, I may see if I can get away with buying/fabricating just the central one as the ends seem to lodge in place nicely either side.
Yay! I somehow managed to find the right unmarked cardboard box in the shed. Happy days! Not sure whether the spacers are part of the same structure, but the holes match up anyhoo :RHD
Quote from: Mycroft on Aug 04, 2023, 03:58 PMYay! I somehow managed to find the right unmarked cardboard box in the shed. Happy days! Not sure whether the spacers are part of the same structure, but the holes match up anyhoo :RHD
those spacers are for the door strikers, front and rear door
Thanks - I know the part you mean. Weird they ended up in this particular box.
Another query then - it turns out I have a spare (later) set of the front trim pieces. On one side, on the top part near the centre is quite a strong circular magnet. Any idea what this might have been for or is this likely a user customisation?
Quote from: 2286 on Aug 04, 2023, 01:36 PMSo 12 seater did not get the badge?
Whilst the 12 seater did not get the badge, it did gain 4 fold-up side steps as standard.
If you look at GHOBHW's photos of the 109" Station Wagons, the earlier (10 seater) vehicle has only a rear step.
The 12 seater has a full set of half-moon steps.
Before these became standard, a rectangular side step was an optional extra (and I daresay relatively expensive due to its construction).
This is why they are rare now.
Quote from: Mycroft on Aug 04, 2023, 05:27 PMThanks - I know the part you mean. Weird they ended up in this particular box.
Another query then - it turns out I have a spare (later) set of the front trim pieces. On one side, on the top part near the centre is quite a strong circular magnet. Any idea what this might have been for or is this likely a user customisation?
very likely a user mod, maybe you could have it behind your trim and keep a trolley coin stuck to it on the other side :RHD
That's a good idea. Seems way too strong for sunglasses and the like and is welded on, so I'd love to know.
Thanks for all the help folks - love learning more about this stuff and this has been really helpful.
Quote from: Exile on Aug 04, 2023, 06:30 PMQuote from: 2286 on Aug 04, 2023, 01:36 PMSo 12 seater did not get the badge?
Whilst the 12 seater did not get the badge, it did gain 4 fold-up side steps as standard.
If you look at GHOBHW's photos of the 109" Station Wagons, the earlier (10 seater) vehicle has only a rear step.
The 12 seater has a full set of half-moon steps.
Before these became standard, a rectangular side step was an optional extra (and I daresay relatively expensive due to its construction).
This is why they are rare now.
Is there any part of the vin that distinguishes a 10 seat from a 12 seat?
I am correct in that the seat configuration were 3,3,4 in the ten seat and 3,3,6 in the 12.
The one piece rear seat was or could be fitted to either 10 or 12 say that is not a way of telling them apart?
The ten seat is indeed 3,3,4 layout. The centre row seat was a single piece, folding seat that folded forward into the centre footwell. The sideways facing rear bench seats were the same as used in the 88" models and could hold two people each side.
The chassis number only tells you that the vehicle was a 109" 5 door model and it states what engine it had, if it was a home market, export, RHD, or LHD.
For the twelve seat versions they moved the centre row seating forward a bit and made 3 person sideways bench seats in the back. Possibly because of the tax implications, the seat base couldn't be folding up and they were bolted in a downwards position and the locker in the rear wheel arch, left side had a cover riveted over it. The ten seat one got the folding seats and a very useful locker in the back.
The twelve seat version centre row seat brackets are quite different to the ten seat so it is possible to tell what the vehicle originally had even if someone has stripped the interior out. The twelve seat one will have a lot more holes for seat brackets and no hinged lid locker in the back.
Craig.
Are there any statistics to show how many of each 10 and 12 were built in total or each year, or as you mention will it simply be recorded as 5 door 109.
My 12 seat had the has the three person side seats but they must at some stage have been liberated because the bases did fold up.
Centre seat was three not single, I did not realise the legroom that was snug resulted from the middles being pushed forward to gain the extra 2 in the rear.
Not sure if the series vehicles were the same but I seem to remember our 12 seat 110 station wagon in 1988 came with fixed rear benches but it was only a single bolt at the front and back that held them down. They had the hinges there waiting so with two bolts removed they became folding.
You can kind of see the front face of the middle seat in my 10 seat is more or less level with the step in the floor. In the side image of the 12 seat it looks a good 6" or so in front of the step reducing leg room but increasing it for the longer benches in the back. It is also noticeable how flat the centre seat bases are in the 12 seat version. My single piece centre seat which is a huge, heavy, metal sprung, horsehair and canvas construction, sits at quite an angle sloping back, much the same as the front seats do. It is really quite comfortable in the middle of a ten seat one but the one piece seat must have been a pain if you want to carry a load and passengers.
It would be interesting (to me anyway) to get mine and a 12 seat next to each other and do some measurements.
I don't think records would exist of how many were made in each type. I have the heritage certificate for my one and no mention on there of seating arrangements.
Craig.
Quote from: Mycroft on Aug 04, 2023, 02:38 PMQuote from: Mycroft on Aug 04, 2023, 02:38 PM]
As a quasi-government contract, I don't believe the GPO would have been subject to purchase tax, but am not 100% sure.
ve the GPO would have been subject to purchase tax, but am not 100% sure.
I believe the GPO vehicles were crown vehicles and no tax was charged as it was just one government department transferring money to another , it all came from the Treasury
so thats why they had so many station wagons....:RHD
A little OT but just seen this on S1 club. The forerunner.
Paul
I have a few image collections of series 1 GPO land rovers too...
the rest of the set from the image above
and for the SWB fans....
nothing beats a station wagon, of any kind :RHD
1956 year
I worked at BT for 19 years, I was towed by an 88" Station Wagon on many occasions as I broke my HA, Commer, Escort and Maestro vans quite regulary.
The Escort Van was the best failure, that lasted less than 5000 miles. I was racing my mate off the line on the A5 and I gave it so much Welly the Cam Belt slipped.
I did not wreck the 2B forward control, this I drive off road when I was 16 down some very steep terrain as the guys I was working with took bets on me rolling it. I would have taken over an hour to drive round, so it was win win.
Paul
Quote from: Birdsnest55 on Aug 07, 2023, 08:05 PMI worked at BT for 19 years, I was towed by an 88" Station Wagon on many occasions as I broke my HA, Commer, Escort and Maestro vans quite regulary.
The Escort Van was the best failure, that lasted less than 5000 miles. I was racing my mate off the line on the A5 and I gave it so much Welly the Cam Belt slipped.
I did not wreck the 2B forward control, this I drive off road when I was 16 down some very steep terrain as the guys I was working with took bets on me rolling it. I would have taken over an hour to drive round, so it was win win.
Paul
I once got a winch off a guy who had an ex BT 2B, the chassis went bent about a few mm in the middle, as they drove under a bridge with the bucket up still.
you couldn't tell until you looked at the cab and the rear tub area, then it was very obvious
my ex GPO station wagon had a pretty rough life in service too, then served as a rally recovery land rover for the RAF rally team in the 70s and early 80s. so it was pretty well used...
what they were made for though :RHD
Many thanks for the pictures of the 86" station wagon. I have saved those to my reference file for the rebuild of the one below. Mine is a 1955 version with a 1954 roof and rear door on it. I'm pretty sure mine didn't start as a station wagon and got the earlier roof later on in life but I will restore it to resemble a 1654 vehicle even if the chassis number is a 5710 number meaning 1955 model year.
Wonder why they went to the hassle of moving the rear step below the tow hitch rather than simply removing it. Looks somewhat venerable down there!
Craig.
Quote from: Craig T on Aug 08, 2023, 10:53 AMMany thanks for the pictures of the 86" station wagon. I have saved those to my reference file for the rebuild of the one below. Mine is a 1955 version with a 1954 roof and rear door on it. I'm pretty sure mine didn't start as a station wagon and got the earlier roof later on in life but I will restore it to resemble a 1654 vehicle even if the chassis number is a 5710 number meaning 1955 model year.
Wonder why they went to the hassle of moving the rear step below the tow hitch rather than simply removing it. Looks somewhat venerable down there!
Craig.
if you look closely in the back, there is a drop down table, so I guess they wanted to keep easy access. the drop down tables were usually for planning/mapping while at work, so I'd expect you'd be in and out of the back 100 times a day :RHD
my GPO 2a had the drop down table inside, though nothing remains of it other than a cleaner spot on the roofing felt where it once lived...
here is what they were like on a 2A.
sadly I cannot find any plans to even try recreate this, as I don't know how it worked. plus the Post Office Vehicle Club hold nothing either :'(
Interesting table that.
Looks like the two rails were fixed in place from the bulkhead behind the seats into the roof and the table slid up and down it somehow with a fold out leg to support the back when down.
Difficult to replicate from just photos. Hard to see what held it up into the roof.
Craig.
Quote from: Craig T on Aug 08, 2023, 11:33 AMInteresting table that.
Looks like the two rails were fixed in place from the bulkhead behind the seats into the roof and the table slid up and down it somehow with a fold out leg to support the back when down.
Difficult to replicate from just photos. Hard to see hat held it up into the roof.
Craig.
yeah its a real oddity, in mine I obviously have all the holes etc in place, the ones in the roof were just drilled through the liner, into the middle section, then plugged with 2 rubber bungs which the bolts went into, not even rivnuts or anything...guess they expected the bottom ones to do all the work.
at the back of my roof it still has a block of wood painted white with a little toggle thing on it, which I expect held the table in place once it was up, but I'm not sure.
maybe someone out there will see this and have all the info :cheers-man
Quote from: GHOBHW on Aug 07, 2023, 07:58 PMI have a few image collections of series 1 GPO land rovers too...
the rest of the set from the image above
Any idea who the coachbuilder was on the lwb s1?
Re s1 swb, is that thing above the winch bollard an emergency stop button for the engine?
Quote from: 2286 on Aug 08, 2023, 12:03 PMQuote from: GHOBHW on Aug 07, 2023, 07:58 PMI have a few image collections of series 1 GPO land rovers too...
the rest of the set from the image above
Any idea who the coachbuilder was on the lwb s1?
Re s1 swb, is that thing above the winch bollard an emergency stop button for the engine?
yes its an emergency engine stop. all GPO land rovers with a winch had one, either on the wings or on the front grille area