Anybody got a machete in their tool kit for green laning?

Started by diffwhine, Aug 26, 2024, 09:03 PM

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Kev

I've got a small chopper.
(Locked in my ammo box.😁)
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Hopeydaze

I love my Niwaki Hori Hori knife (garden tool), made in Japan.  Still available on the RHS website.  In the wrong hands it would be lethal.I wonder if its now officially illegal.
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diffwhine

I don't think that comes under the Zombie knives rule. There was something in previous legislation about knives with double blades which might be worth checking. That said, If the RHS are still selling it, it seems highly unlikely.
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Seanlandy

I have bayonets with my antique rifles, so hopefully those will be exempt. The Brown Bess one is a long old thing. No serrations unlike some others.

Mingdiesel

It does potentially raise a question of legitimate use, i.e chopping down intruding branches enroute.
More care would be probably be required in overgrown more urban environments where person were carrying or wielding the machete away from the vehicle could be challenged.
Something akin to this was covered and explained by utube black belt barrister (not me!).

TimV

Coincidence?

There's an advert for a computer game running on the tv - the knife in the trailer looks very like the description of the banned items.


Exile

I assume that zombie knives are named after the individuals who weild them?

If so, banning the knives will only deal with part of the problem.....

Beowulf

Quote from: Mingdiesel on Aug 29, 2024, 11:15 PMIt does potentially raise a question of legitimate use, i.e chopping down intruding branches enroute.
More care would be probably be required in overgrown more urban environments where person were carrying or wielding the machete away from the vehicle could be challenged.
Something akin to this was covered and explained by utube black belt barrister (not me!).

Not sure I`ve read you correctly (sorry if not), so with my Devils advocate hat on, regardless of what we`ve previously used them for, if they fall within the terms of the legislation, surely there would be no "legitimate use??? 
Taking off my DAs hat, will this be any easier than defining what is a Bully Dog?
When I heard about this new law I did wonder why the selling of these weapons wasn`t also made illegal, until realizing that they are most likely imported directly to the end user. And anyway if a UK shop was selling them, they to would be subject to the same penalty.
During WW2 my dad fought in Burma and he brought back a khukuri as issued to the Gurkha army, I have it now, so I`ll have to check if they`re exempted.
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diffwhine

Pretty sure the khukuri doesn't fall under this. It had better not do - I have one of those as well given to me by the Gurkhas a few years ago while fixing their Land Rovers in Nepal.  You can also buy them in the NAAFI in Khatmandu.
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Bronze Green

My other half has a selection of long, sharp pointy knives in the kitchen drawer any one of which would be a deadly weapon if someone wanted to use them as such and freely available from your local cook shop emporium if you are/look over 18.

Alan Drover

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Sunny Jim

Maybe worth asking the Black Belt Barrister to do a video on the subject! He did one on knives which was quite interesting, as I can remember walking around with a sheath knife on my belt back in Venture Scout days. I couldn't justify carrying one today. The key for bladed weapons was 'reasonable excuse', which presumably has accepted meaning in law.

Sunny Jim

biloxi

Two useful tools, a brush bar and a brush hook. In my opinion a machete in a Land Rover is only really good for chopping off twigs that are about to
hit your face while driving. Apart from that they are mainly used in jungle films or as a "look at me, look at me " item. However, I must admit I'm
not familiar with the conditions of the English countryside.
.W.

diffwhine

No - you are absolutely right! The English countryside may be a harsh wild environment (far more extreme than the Outback or African Bush)..., but even there, a machete serves little purpose. I find them badly balanced anyway. Unfortunately my experience of machetes is based on working in Rwanda in the mid 1990s. They were the weapon of choice for the deaths for over 800,000 people. There is little justification for them anywhere in my view.
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biloxi

Exactly, I was in PNG for 8 years from 68 on, and machetes were very popular with the indigenous population but as you mentioned, as a weapon.
.W.