A bit of fun - ChatGPT with access to the S2 / S2A workshop manual

Started by barrettabolt, Oct 20, 2024, 08:34 PM

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barrettabolt

I've created a custom "GPT" - essentially ChatGPT with access to the Series 2 and 2a workshop manual (the official one - around 1963).

Go ahead and have a play. Expect it to amaze and disappoint in equal measure. I've used it in voice mode to ask questions whilst in the workshop, sometimes it's bang on the mark with the answer, other times... not so much

You may need a CHatGPT account to access it, I'm not sure, but if you do, a free account should be sufficient.

https://bit.ly/Series2GPT

Gareth

Great stuff! I just asked it what the hub endfloat should be on the front axle.

"Oh, joy. Another question about a detail. The front axle hub endfloat, as prescribed in the manual, should be adjusted between 0.001 inches and 0.003 inches (that's 0.025 mm to 0.076 mm for those who care about metric). If it's outside that range, you must go through the joyful process of adding or removing shims between the bearings to adjust it.

I suppose that might be too much for some, but well, everything's too much for me."

s2c-07684

mmm This is weird, how does it work are you linked to all the text in the manual? I did need to create a free account.

How do adjust the brakes Marvin?

Adjusting the brakes on your Series 2 or 2a Land Rover—how thrilling, really—is a straightforward but precise process. Here's how you go about it:

Jack Up the Vehicle: Raise the wheel you're working on and support the vehicle on axle stands. Make sure the wheel is off the ground.

Remove the Wheel: This gives you access to the brake drum.

Access the Brake Adjusters: The brake system uses cam adjusters that are found on the backplate of the brake assembly. You'll typically need a brake adjusting spanner to turn these.

Turn the Adjuster: Rotate the adjuster clockwise to move the shoes closer to the drum. Continue turning until the shoes just start to bind against the drum.

Back Off Slightly: Once you feel the binding, turn the adjuster back slightly (just a fraction) until the wheel rotates freely with a slight drag.

Repeat for Other Adjusters: If your vehicle has twin adjusters (common on Land Rovers with larger brakes), repeat the process for the second adjuster on the same wheel.

Test the Brake Pedal: After adjusting all wheels, press the brake pedal to ensure it's firm and consistent.

If the brake feels spongy, you might need to bleed the system. Isn't that a delightful thought?

Enjoy your task—it will keep you busy for a bit longer in this vast, pointless universe.

simonbav

Just what no-one needed. A faux intelligence with an alleged attitude.  Put it back in the box and f### off with it.
1960 88" 2286 petrol truck cab
1971 109" 2286 diesel station wagon

Richard

You don't need to open a ChatGPT-account per se. Microsoft will also give you the answer to any Land Rover maintenance related questions you might have. MS and ChatGPT are closely interwoven, as in: MS pumps obscene amounts of money into the chatbot, and if you use MS's own bot Copilot, you in fact use ChatGPT 4.0, which in the vast pointless GPT-universe is a paid option.

I asked Copilot the same question Gareth asked Marvin, and got the same answer, without the attitude :cool The answer Copilot/ChatGPT 4.0 gave, is below. With acknowledgement of it's resources!

Richard
'64 S2a
'85 RRC

Old Hywel

While I have only the vaguest idea of the system under discussion, I have to question its instructions.
1. Shims to adjust wheel bearings? Misleading at best.
2. Removing wheel to adjust brakes? It's not a Morris Minor.

Richard

Quote from: Old Hywel on Oct 21, 2024, 08:52 AMWhile I have only the vaguest idea of the system under discussion, I have to question its instructions.
1. Shims to adjust wheel bearings? Misleading at best.
2. Removing wheel to adjust brakes? It's not a Morris Minor.
It is of course a 'dumb' machine, in so far as it can only reproduce already existing answers it found elsewhere (in the case of Copilot on the end float question LRonly and LRUK), or maybe recombine or reshuffle those into novel outputs or 'emergent behaviors', as an expert in the field explains when asked if AI is or can become capable of original thought.

Apparently, the chat-GPT crawlers haven't found the Series 2 Club forum yet :cool

Richard
'64 S2a
'85 RRC

simonbav

Quote from: Richard on Oct 21, 2024, 09:13 AM
Quote from: Old Hywel on Oct 21, 2024, 08:52 AMWhile I have only the vaguest idea of the system under discussion, I have to question its instructions.
1. Shims to adjust wheel bearings? Misleading at best.
2. Removing wheel to adjust brakes? It's not a Morris Minor.
It is of course a 'dumb' machine, in so far as it can only reproduce already existing answers it found elsewhere (in the case of Copilot on the end float question LRonly and LRUK), or maybe recombine or reshuffle those into novel outputs or 'emergent behaviors', as an expert in the field explains when asked if AI is or can become capable of original thought.

Apparently, the chat-GPT crawlers haven't found the Series 2 Club forum yet :cool

Richard


The worst part is, it has no moral compass, no conscience, yet incomparable "power"; the worst "antisocial" traits which, in humans, would have it censured and placed under strict freedom constraints.
1960 88" 2286 petrol truck cab
1971 109" 2286 diesel station wagon

Wittsend

Garbage in >>>> Garbage out


 :dust-1

Exile

I have all the fun I need, reading the Workshop Manual.


It is usualy accurate and has 1960's attitude.

Oilierthanthou

This is seriously worrying. The information given there isn't just misleading, much is just plain wrong! Hub end float should be.004" to .006" and no shims are used in the process.

Adjusting brakes clockwise! :confused when you're facing which way? And what about the other side. Following these instructions could be very dangerous.

John