Selling old chassis.

[Ian Cunnington]

What's the rules about selling a chassis, that I have replaced with a galvanised one. It's not beyond repair but I didn't want to do it and just replaced it. If I grind off the chassis number, can I sell it and it's legal? Or do I have to cut it up for scrap ?

[109+1]

If it was mine I'd cut the front dumb iron off with chassis number and keep with you vehicle, then cut up chassis for salvageable parts then scrap the rest, no comebacks,  league, and peace of mind .

[Alan Drover]

It can't be used to replace another chassis. It's identity is with the original Land Rover when it was manufactured.
A mate years ago bought a written off Defender that had been rolled but the chassis was in good condition. He had to cut up the chassis which he did.
If a second hand chassis is fitted the recipient vehicle will be issued with a Q plate, most undesirable.

[diffwhine]

There is nothing in law to prevent anybody selling a used chassis. There is also nothing in law preventing anybody buying a used chassis. You are also as 109+1 suggests, able to cut up the chassis and use multiple sections. I have done this myself extensively on my Lightweight chassis.

What is not allowed is to fit a used donor chassis to a vehicle as a complete unit and declare it as a proper replacement for the vehicle. To do so would be to misrepresent the vehicle's identity. The identity of the vehicle is the chassis in our case (or the body on a monocoque shell). You can fit a new replacement chassis and stamp it with the original vehicle's number. You cannot use a donor vehicle's chassis and stamp it as your vehicle. A second hand chassis retains the identity of the original donor vehicle and cannot be changed.

[Ian Cunnington]

Thanks guys, chop it up I think then 

[Alan Drover]

Best idea.

[w3526602]

Hi,

There is something in my mind about a concession that allows a previously used chassis to be fitted to another vehicle ... but ONLY if a new chassis is NOT available. The NEW chassis must never have been fitted to another vehicle have been purchased directly from the factory. Have I got that right?

I suspect that such a chassis could be built upon, provided that it never goes on the Highway ... and POSSIBLY on a Public Right of Way, or anywhere accessible to the Public, in which case it requires registration plates and insurance.

Feel free to correct me.

I was able to use my Grey Fergie, and could have used my Suzuki 250cc 4x4 "quad-bike" to and from my 7.5 acres of "pony paddock" about half a mile from my house, but I'd had had it uprated to "street legal". It was a joy to watch Plod's face when he noticed the Tax Disc. Of course, I was claiming the right, as at that time, KEEPING horses was considered to be AGRICULTURE ... but no longer.

602

[Alan Drover]

I think you're right about the unavailable chassis situation but surely a new chassis can be bought from a dealer and not direct from the manufacturer.

[diffwhine]

I am really speaking in contact of our Land Rovers here. There may be exceptions, but given the current rules from DVSA, I doubt it.

If a vehicle is not being run on the road, of course this is not relevant.

[w3526602]

I think you're right about the unavailable chassis situation but surely a new chassis can be bought from a dealer and not direct from the manufacturer.

Hi,

I think ALL models of chassis ARE available (and was aware of that stumbling block). Are there any that are not available?

Perhaps an 81" ... a hundred were built ... 50 with Rover engines and 50 with RR engines, but I doubt you will find one in a fit state (too bad, or, too good) to be able/willing to donate it's chassis. I believe the extra inch was to accommodate the longer RR engine. The MOD placed the order so they could evaluate which version best suited their needs.

Hmmm! So no problem building a new 1930s Austin 7 out of old parts, then? I know that new (non-replica) chassis were produced to support Ford 8 and 10 "specials". Wasn't Colin Chapmans original LOTUS built on an Austin 7 chassis, and could out-perform a TR2?

602

OT. In the late 1930s, a woman ordered a new Brough Superior CAR. The factory had ceased production some years previously but managed to cobble a car out of spare parts.

[John]

Sorry if this is a OT question but as most series Land Rovers have had some chassis welding or a new chassis and if a stamped chassis number cannot be seen/found should you not purchase or sell the Land Rover even if it seems all the history/paperwork and V5C are to hand

[Peter Holden]

No one can tell you what to do or not to do.

Just remember though that DVLA use the stamped in chassis number as the unique identifier.  I don't mean the number on the bulkhead plate,  DVLA will not accept that as they class it as portable