Problems at petrol stations

[Uffddd]

1 gallon (of water) weighs exactly 10 lbs.

Petrol/diesel is a little lighter so say 8 lbs.

20 litres is just under 4 gallons so you'll have 35+ lbs in the can, plus the weight of the can.
That's quite a load. Better to carry 2 cans, one for each arm to balance things out 
As you know the outer handle bits were to allow 2 people either side to carry the can between them

PS
I always thought that jerry cans were 5 gallons 
Have they shrunk over the years or am I misinformed

I tend to use a little 5 litre plastic can for the lawn mower (lasts me about 1 year of mowing).
I get some surprising looks when filling up the LWT - hose in through the front door.
Great ... means I can pull up any side of the pumps. Never been refused service.

I always thought the outer handles on Jerry cans were for picking up two at once, not much trouble for moving them from one vehicle to another say and very easy when moving them about when empty.


This storm in a teacup surrounding fuelling classic cars with unusual fuel pipe placement seems to stem from one event that the chap then wrote an article about. Sure you might occasionally get quizzed by a pump attendant as to why your pouring petrol into your footwell but a simple cheerful explanation is going to suffice for all but the most obstinate characters.

[Wittsend]

Nothing like a bit of "Daily Mailese" to wind up the punters.

It raises our page count 

[Alan Drover]

What a fascinating topic this has become.

[Wittsend]

Jerrycans

[w3526602]

Hi.

I once bought a NEW Suzuki 250cc 4x4 Quad, which was intended to drag a trailer carrying a 40 gallon (?) drum of water up a small mountain. I had the choice of taxing it at the Agricultural Vehicle rate (very cheap), which mean having it converted to "Street Legal", or "SECTION & EXEMPT", which limited me seven miles a week ... ONLY on a pre-specified route.

I chose to register it as an Agricultural Vehicle, which meant having a STREET LEGAL KIT fitted by the dealer, with a certificate to confirm it had been converted. That's side, tail, main beam, stop lamp and indicators, parking brake, and a METAL FUEL TANK. There may be more that I cant remember ... it was almost 40 years ago.

At  THAT  time, KEEPING HORSES was specified as AGRICULTURE, but did NOT include RIDING, BREEDING, etc. I believe that has since changed, so check it out before pushing your luck. Would keeping a dozen "chooks", for eggs and/or diner count as agriculture?

Similarly, the Planning Legislation permitted "LAND" to be used for any purpose (with some specified exceptions, such as motor racing and clay pigeon shooting), for 28 days in a calendar year.) Can anyone here clarify the current situation?

602

PS Agricultural Vehicle insurance WAS very cheap. Still? I was paying £10 per year, for each of my 4x4 Quad, and Grey Fergie, but that was then. I won't mention my VW Beach Buggy, used for carrying bales of hay through the woods.

PPS  I don't know if Section 7 Exemption still exists.

[simonbav]

Hi.

I once bought a NEW Suzuki 250cc 4x4 Quad, which was intended to drag a trailer carrying a 40 gallon (?) drum of water up a small mountain. I had the choice of taxing it at the Agricultural Vehicle rate (very cheap), which mean having it converted to "Street Legal", or "SECTION & EXEMPT", which limited me seven miles a week ... ONLY on a pre-specified route.

I chose to register it as an Agricultural Vehicle, which meant having a STREET LEGAL KIT fitted by the dealer, with a certificate to confirm it had been converted. That's side, tail, main beam, stop lamp and indicators, parking brake, and a METAL FUEL TANK. There may be more that I cant remember ... it was almost 40 years ago.

At  THAT  time, KEEPING HORSES was specified as AGRICULTURE, but did NOT include RIDING, BREEDING, etc. I believe that has since changed, so check it out before pushing your luck. Would keeping a dozen "chooks", for eggs and/or diner count as agriculture?

Similarly, the Planning Legislation permitted "LAND" to be used for any purpose (with some specified exceptions, such as motor racing and clay pigeon shooting), for 28 days in a calendar year.) Can anyone here clarify the current situation?

602

PS Agricultural Vehicle insurance WAS very cheap. Still? I was paying £10 per year, for each of my 4x4 Quad, and Grey Fergie, but that was then. I won't mention my VW Beach Buggy, used for carrying bales of hay through the woods.

PPS  I don't know if Section 7 Exemption still exists.

I once worked for Andy Young at Langdale Quest, in 10,000 acres of Langdale Forest in North Yorkshire. He ran a fleet of 12 Suzuki 410 and 413 jeeps on three graded routes, the one, two and three hour Quests. The Suzukis were all reclassed as tractors/agricultural vehicles to allow them to trundle from the farm downhill to the forest and back up again. The 413s would tow a 410 on an A frame to the solid front bumper and he'd pull a couple behind a Unimog. All the Suzukis had a superb rear brake disk conversion and they'd stop on a sixpence. When he acquired a fleet of quads they too were taxed as agricultural vehicles for the same purpose.