Trailer info

[Bigdog]

Is this trailer weight too big to tow with a series 2a 109 Land Rover, thanks

[Bigdog]

Not sure if it's a bridge or trailer 😂 but it has wheels

[Robin]

The weight on the trailer plate doesn't matter - it's the actual laden weight which counts, ie. how much it actually weighs with whatever you've loaded it with.

I have an email from VOSA which confirms this as I wanted to know if I could tow an empty trailer, plated at 3500kg behind my eurobox which had a towing limit of 2000kg.

Here is the email correspondence I had with VOSA a couple of years ago regarding towing.

(My emails in blue - VOSA responses in red).
Hi,
I am trying to find some information regarding trailer towing with a PLG vehicle.
The information I am looking for is whether I can tow an unladen trailer which is plated at 3500kg
with a vehicle which has a manufacturer's plated towing weight of 2000kg.
I understand that I must not exceed the maximum train weight, and that I could be pulled in for
testing at a weighbridge.
Could you please point me to where I might find this information?
Regards,

"I refer to your mail of 13 February to VOSA Enquiries with the above title.
You need to have category B+E on your driving licence to tow a 3.5 tonne GVW trailer with a private
car/van. Category B limits the combined car + trailer GVWs to a total of 3.5 tonnes which is where
the confusion arises.
However I confirm that for technical purposes a motor vehicle can tow any
trailer provided the towing vehicle's towing capacity or Gross Train Weight is not exceeded,
regardless of the Gross Vehicle Weight of the Trailer.
Thus your example vehicle with a 2.0 tonne
towing capacity can legally tow an unladen trailer weighing say 1 tonne even though the trailer
GVW is 3.5 tonnes provided you have the B+E driving licence.
The only regulations that make usage limitations based on trailer GVW rather than actual weight are
some categories of driving licence (as mentioned above), tachograph and driver's hours, and goods
vehicle operator licensing. Those that govern overloading offences, the Authorised Weight
Regulations 1998 and the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986 do not.
Steve Whitehart
Heavy Vehicle Process Manager
Testing and Support Services
Customer Service Centre
VOSA Swansea


 

[Robin]

Not sure if it's a bridge or trailer 😂 but it has wheels

Ah, of course, if the 'bridge'/'trailer' actually weighs 3 ton then my info doesn't help you!
You're into the grey area, or black & white according to some, of 'manufacturer's towing limits' of a S2A 109   

[Bigdog]

Thanks Robin, yes it's a bit confusing

[Alan Drover]

A Sankey would be more suitable for your military Land Rover.

[Bigdog]

This is the trailer pics

[Space-Kook]

Not any help, but that trailer looks dope as hell.

[Alan Drover]

What would you use it for?

[John]

I see the VSOA reply states-
"I refer to your mail of 13 February to VOSA Enquiries with the above title.
You need to have category B+E on your driving licence to tow a 3.5 tonne GVW trailer with a private
car/van. Category B limits the combined car + trailer GVWs to a total of 3.5 tonnes which is where
the confusion arises."
I see on some licences it shows as BE, is that the same as B+E

[Craig T]

I assume it has brakes but looking at the pipes I'm guessing they are hydraulic or air brakes rather than overrun brakes you get on horseboxes and caravans?

My understanding is an un-braked trailer can only weigh up to 750Kg
A braked trailer can weigh up to 3500Kg assuming you are licensed to tow trailers.

Unless you get the brakes on it working with your tow vehicle brakes, I doubt you can go anywhere legally.

Craig.

[Old Hywel]

To me it looks vastly too big for a series Land Rover. Anything more than a couple of bags of cement, and you'll be way over any sensible towing weight.

[2286]

Is that thick cabling or does it have air/pipes thus air brakes?

This size of trailer was typically pulled by bedford mk and latterly the chunked up roadrunner.

The army had some TM's as well.

Whilst a land rover possibly would move it (depending on brake type) your payload would be small due to GTW.

[Len]

Landrover Len /210
The trailer is designed to deliver heavy bridging parts to get vehicles across gaps ie rivers ,canals holes etc .
They are towed by 3 ton 4x4 trucks.I had lots of fun doing sutch things while serving in Royal engineers in the 60/70s.
As they are built,they are not good for 109/110 or101 l/rs ,drastic surgery and too much work needed.
The nato hitch might be of interest too.
Keep the faith

[2286]

Len

Will the nato hitch be the next size up to the one used on land rover sankey and pennman.