Engine number identification

Started by simonbav, Aug 02, 2024, 12:07 PM

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simonbav

Good afternoon all,

I've located the wiring for the choke and otter switch in my '60's loom and now I come to the replacement engine I find that it has a temperature switch rather than an otter switch.

The block number is 95128835C. Can someone help me identify it please?



1960 88" 2286 petrol truck cab
1971 109" 2286 diesel station wagon

diffwhine

Looks like a Series 3 engine to me. Not a problem, just connect up as per S3.
1965 2A 88" Station Wagon

Twomokes

That is a later S3 engine, it should from memory still have the otter switch  on the top of the head or at least the casting boss of it wasn't drilled in addition the temperature sender on the drivers side of the head.
The old days are the old days only because there're gone and won't be back.

simonbav

1960 88" 2286 petrol truck cab
1971 109" 2286 diesel station wagon

Old Hywel

I don't think any S3 had an Otter switch. Choke out, light on.

Alan Drover

I've checked in James Taylor's Series 3 book and 951 prefix engines are 8:1 military spec 12v 1971-4.
Otter switches were fitted to some Series 3 engines per the parts list.
Series 3 Owner but interested in all real Land Rovers.
"Being born was my first big mistake."
"Ça plane pour moi!"

Richard

Yes, according to Glencoyne 951... is a Series III petrol 2286cc 3-bearing (fitted to 88 inch airportable).
Richard
'64 S2a
'85 RRC

Old Hywel

Early 73, blanking plate.
1980, undrilled.

Alan Drover

I found it courtesy of James Taylor again.
The otter switch was discontinued in September 1973 at chassis numbers 901-06527A and 904-03788A on 88's and 911-02845B and 914-07305B for 109's. No actual engine numbers given.
Series 3 Owner but interested in all real Land Rovers.
"Being born was my first big mistake."
"Ça plane pour moi!"

Theshed

Ok give up. What's an Otter switch ?   ???

simonbav

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Quote from: Theshed on Aug 02, 2024, 10:42 PMOk give up. What's an Otter switch ?  ???

Temperature Otter switch, in Series 1 and 2 and 2a Land Rover 2286 engines at the front top surface of the cylinder head and many other period cars.
1960 88" 2286 petrol truck cab
1971 109" 2286 diesel station wagon

simonbav

Quote from: Old Hywel on Aug 02, 2024, 04:54 PMEarly 73, blanking plate.
1980, undrilled.


Thanks O.H., the block is un-drilled, so post 1980.
1960 88" 2286 petrol truck cab
1971 109" 2286 diesel station wagon

Alan Drover

I suspect when the otter switch was discontinued cylinder heads with blanking plates were used until they were all gone then the later casting without the plate was used. I don't think the head on the original 2.25 engine in my Land Rover had a plate and that was a 1975 engine.
Series 3 Owner but interested in all real Land Rovers.
"Being born was my first big mistake."
"Ça plane pour moi!"

diffwhine

Early Range Rovers had them as well.

If you look on the ACR website, in their downloads section, there is an excellent summary of all the cylinder heads, how to identify them, casting numbers, compression rations, measurements and so on.
1965 2A 88" Station Wagon

Richard

Quote from: Theshed on Aug 02, 2024, 10:42 PMOk give up. What's an Otter switch ?  ???
That'd be my question too ;-) I thought it had something to do with a peculiarity of otters, but it's the company name. I found this explanation on a Jag forum:

Otter is the name of the company, which is based here in Buxton
Derbyshire. They make bi-metallic switches and other small controls
for myriad customers, automotive and otherwise. Chances are your
electric kettle has an Otter switch in it.
They come in both types: to switch things like fans on when hot or
chokes on when cold. Not all the replacements sold by spares people
are genuine Otters. Whether that is a good thing or a bad thing I
don't know. They are fairly robust and simple. Problems are usually
caused either by abuse or corrosion / leakage I believe. Or fitting
the wrong switch in the first place or wiring problems elsewhere in
the system. Sensible treatment and use of corrosion-inhibiting
coolant mixtures keeps them functioning, for the most part.–
Richard
'64 S2a
'85 RRC