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Started by Alan Drover, Nov 08, 2024, 06:16 PM

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Alan Drover

I received my regular emails from LRM, including a suffix F Land Rover V8 Defender 110 Station Wagon, priced at £19,500 and in (supposedly) excellent condition. However,, no mention is made about structural parts and the MOT history makes interesting reading.
Reg number F143 SUW.
Series 3 Owner but interested in all real Land Rovers.
"Being born was my first big mistake."
"Ça plane pour moi!"

nathanglasgow

What a load of bollocks. 800 miles in 17 years. Looks like a total rot box

Alan Drover

I've emailed the editor of LRM suggesting he takes a look at the MOT history of one of his "Pick of the Month" Land Rovers.
Series 3 Owner but interested in all real Land Rovers.
"Being born was my first big mistake."
"Ça plane pour moi!"

g6anz

The low mileage is probably because they're scared to drive it. From the MOT reports it seems that it will fall in half at the first pothole
No Worries mate

Alan Drover

Quote from: g6anz on Nov 09, 2024, 11:11 AMThe low mileage is probably because they're scared to drive it. From the MOT reports it seems that it will fall in half at the first pothole
...or the speedometer cable was broken as well as the rest of it.
Series 3 Owner but interested in all real Land Rovers.
"Being born was my first big mistake."
"Ça plane pour moi!"

diffwhine

I haven't seen the advert, so probably should not be commenting, but I think we may be overlooking a fundamental point here.
If this is an original and unmolested One Ten V8 Station Wagon of that age with all the correct documentation, then its a prime candidate to be shipped to the US as is and restored and sold there. It may not be worth much here, but there you have a vehicle (restored) worth anything up and over $100,000...
1965 2A 88" Station Wagon


Exile

Quote from: Alan Drover on Nov 08, 2024, 06:16 PMI received my regular emails from LRM, including a suffix F Land Rover V8 Defender 110 Station Wagon, priced at £19,500 and in (supposedly) excellent condition. However,, no mention is made about structural parts and the MOT history makes interesting reading.
Reg number F143 SUW.

Do you mean an F pre-fix registration?

If so, yes it is a One Ten and not a Defender 110.

EDIT:
Have just seen Nathan's link.

It is a late One Ten V8, which I wouldn't describe as rare - but it does have air con which would suit the US market.

Alan Drover

#8
Apologies for the prefix/suffix/One Ten/Defender error. Prefix it is.
In that condition £19,500 is excessive considering the MOT reports. It needs extensive chassis work, more than likely a new one and it's been misdescribed too.
Would it really be worth the expense of major repairs and getting it to the USA?
Series 3 Owner but interested in all real Land Rovers.
"Being born was my first big mistake."
"Ça plane pour moi!"

simeon

Quote from: Alan Drover on Nov 09, 2024, 03:22 PMIn that condition £19,500 is excessive considering the MOT reports. It needs extensive chassis work, more than likely a new one and it's been misdescribed too.
Would it really be worth the expense of major repairs and getting it to the USA

Yes, it certainly is worth at least £75k-100K depending on how good the restoration is.  I would like to see it restored over here and sent to America though.

Alan Drover

Series 3 Owner but interested in all real Land Rovers.
"Being born was my first big mistake."
"Ça plane pour moi!"

diffwhine

You don't want to restore it here - it needs to go to the US as original and intact as possible. That avoids any issues with the US authorities.
Clearly if sold here, that sort of price is crazy, but I suspect the seller has their eye on an export opportunity.
1965 2A 88" Station Wagon

2aLightweight

Curious about the extended aircon nose panel - I have previously owned a later G reg turbo diesel 110 with factory fitted aircon, the later underslung dash type, and that had a standard nose panel, and also a earlier 90 v8 with the earlier type aircon with blanked off bulkhead vents, and that too had a standard nose panel.

diffwhine

The early V8 A/C system had everything under the bonnet and closed off vents - very common in Africa and the Middle East. It wasn't very effective even with running on R12. The extended nose panel made of fibreglass was standard on factory (line) fit a/c R134A systems to allow for the larger condenser. We also had external contractors who provided a near identical under dash system which became factory fit standard. When it was fitted by 3rd party contractors, they always used a smaller and more efficient condenser than the factory unit, so therefore no need for the extended nose. The factory chose to continue fitting the extension on all line fit versions up to the end of 2006 model year. The jury was always out on which version was better, but I always preferred the more discrete non extension version. Therefore your turbo diesel with factory fit A/C may well have had a system fitted post production by an external contractor (two brothers did it for them). So yes - factory fitted as in fitted at the factory, but not factory line fit spec.
1965 2A 88" Station Wagon

Alan Drover

I received a reply from LRM which said basically that it's up to the buyer to check MOT history etc. LRM apparently don't do so. "Beauty is only skin deep" applies.
CAVEAT EMPTOR!!!!!
Series 3 Owner but interested in all real Land Rovers.
"Being born was my first big mistake."
"Ça plane pour moi!"