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[Peter Holden]

I have been part of a discussion on the S1 forum about engine colours.

My engine is a 5mb with the ribbed block, it is painted a terracotta red but someone is saying thet the 5Mb diesels were painted black.

Anyone got any information?

Peter

[TimV]

James Taylor in the series III guide says the 5MB diesel engines were painted red.

[Alan Drover]

I believe both petrol and diesel 5 bearing engines had a terracotta block and a black cylinder head as does the 2.5 petrol
and diesel.
Easy to tell apart. The 2.5 diesel has a timing belt and the petrol a spin on filter and the oil filler is the breather cap (except on mine.)

[GlenAnderson]

5-bearing engines are terracotta red, with black heads. From the first 2.25 versions fitted to late series 3s, right up to the last 2.5 petrol and Turbo D engines fitted to 90 and 110 models.

[Wittsend]

... as seen here



(Paint supplied by the Paintman)



 

[GHOBHW]

... as seen here



(Paint supplied by the Paintman)



 

that picture just answered my question from the other day, i had a block with ERC4940 on it and wondered what it was
and to answer the original post, that block is also terracotta red

[GHOBHW]

went and took a picture, you can see the red, this has been sat around for a good 20+ years or more, original paint

[Wittsend]

Mine has an engine number = 36113270

As far as I know it is a 5 bearing diesel engine.
Don't know about metric or not what I know is that the fittings thread holes are UNF imperial.
Can't speak for the crank fittings. Front crank nut is 1" Whitworth. Sump screws 5/16" UNF. Head bolts 1/2" UNF etc.

 

[autorover1]

The 5 bearing crank has the dip stick in a different position to miss the extra bearing next to it. 

[Ndrwdz]

The 5 bearing crank has the dip stick in a different position to miss the extra bearing next to it.

Which means that an earlier sump won't fit the later engine (don't ask me how I know).
Well, it will fit, but the dipstick may or may not go into the oil 

You can see the different size dipstick openings in the picture.

Andrew

[Peter Holden]

It would be an easy mod to make it fit though Andrew

Peter

[autorover1]

Thats how I found  out as well,  tried fitted a 3 bearing sump to a 5 bearing block. Land Rover messed up with the part numbering , modified the sump for 5 bearings and initially kept the same part number . This should only happen if the part is interchangeable new for old and old for new . In this case the new will fit a 3 bearing but not the other way.

[Ndrwdz]

It would be an easy mod to make it fit though Andrew

Peter

It was 

[Peter Holden]

I have a very battered and dented sump to fit to my IOE engine.  Nephew is taking it to work where someone will cut the baffle plate out, return the bottom of the sump to the correct shape and then TIG weld the baffle back in.  He assures me there will be no sign of the damage nor of the welding.  Given that they have welded some serious cracks in rthe block i believe him

Peter