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Re: Should I go electric ?
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2021, 01:06:51 PM »

Did anyone see the story about rail freight company's in the UK switching back to using Diesel locomotives because of the cost of electricity at the moment. A bit of an embarrassment ahead of the Climate Change Conference in November.  :thud

Maybe some of the preserved Diesel locomotives will end up being sold back into revenue earning service!  :tiphat
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Re: Should I go electric ?
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2021, 04:16:59 PM »

Hi,

Sorry about the battery powered Herald link ... however there are at least two, maybe three relevant links in there.  Try a Google for....
 .... TRIUMPH HERALD EV CONVERSION (which will also produce an electric Spitfire as well ... plus a lot of dross. It can be done)

I haven't yet tried searching fo CITROEN 2CV EV CONVERSION.

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Re: Should I go electric ?
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2021, 04:18:21 PM »

My mate has one of those fancy Jaguar IPace electric cars. Its a great car, fantastic acceleration and obviously green. However, we all went up to Stockton on Tees for a reunion. Whilst there, we also visited Beamish. There were no car charging points at Beamish (surprisingly) and none at the hotel we were staying at - a Premier inn. So on the Sunday morning when we were all leaving, we all went to Breakfast, while he had to go into town and find a charging point before he could head home to Northampton. So there is clearly still an issue with the infrastructure for charging electric cars. I have however noticed on some new build housing estates that charging points are being fitted to these new houses - not sure if that is a requirement nowadays?

As for electric cars, I came accross this the other morning - obviously driver error, but can you imagine the consequenses if this had happened in the live lane of a motorway? Obviously as more electric cars are on the roads, the more likely this can happen......
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Re: Should I go electric ?
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2021, 04:30:34 PM »

^^^^ True, but an infernal combustion car can run out of puff too, particularly when equipped with the incredibly accurate Landrover Series fuel gauge.

Admittedly, once a spare can of the appropriate fuel is to hand, "recharging" is a fair bit quicker. 

 
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« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2021, 06:47:37 PM »

My mate has one of those fancy Jaguar IPace electric cars. Its a great car, fantastic acceleration and obviously green. However, we all went up to Stockton on Tees for a reunion. Whilst there, we also visited Beamish. There were no car charging points at Beamish (surprisingly) and none at the hotel we were staying at - a Premier inn. So on the Sunday morning when we were all leaving, we all went to Breakfast, while he had to go into town and find a charging point before he could head home to Northampton. So there is clearly still an issue with the infrastructure for charging electric cars. I have however noticed on some new build housing estates that charging points are being fitted to these new houses - not sure if that is a requirement nowadays?

As for electric cars, I came accross this the other morning - obviously driver error, but can you imagine the consequenses if this had happened in the live lane of a motorway? Obviously as more electric cars are on the roads, the more likely this can happen......

You can't really expect too much - they are a BMW driver after all  :-X :-X

We own a Renault Zoe - yes the infrastructure does need work.

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Re: Should I go electric ?
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2021, 11:24:08 PM »

Hi,

Idle curiosity, but what use would a little petrol engined generator be ... although is sort of obviates the benefits.

Should solar panels on the house roof (grant available?) be considered as a syncronised purchase?

Some of you might have seen (last week's Daily Mail, I think) the photograph of the top deck of DVLA's multi-storey car-park. EMPTY. Would you walk up three flights of steps if, if slots were available lower down? Maybe if there were solar chargers availabe?

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Re: Should I go electric ?
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2021, 06:31:29 AM »

We have a new VW E-Up! On order. Should be here next week. My wife will use it for her business. She does up to 50 miles per day, rarely more, often less. Currently
She is using our 110 D300 new Defender to do this and it’s not economical on these journeys.

We plan to charge from a home 3 pin socket. It will have all night to charge, and if we ever need a fast charge we’ll take it to a fast charger.

We chose the E-Up! because it’s pretty much the cheapest ev available. The seat and Skoda versions of the same car have long delivery times.

Running costs are predicted to be about 4 pence per mile when using a home supply. The range is said to be 160 miles. Even if it only does a 100 miles in the middle of winter, it won’t be a problem for us.

You’d think with the name E-Up! it would be made in Yorkshire!!  but sadly not. It’s made in Slovakia. ⚡️
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Re: Should I go electric ?
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2021, 06:56:05 AM »

Hi,

The first battery powered car I read about. had the expected electric motor and batteries but also a small petrol generator to charge the batteries.

The generator ran constantly, and was set to run at Best Condition, so charged the batteries at a steady rate.

The electric motor had to handle the intermittent, and variable, drain caused by hills and acceleration, but overall, consumption and generation balanced out. It's hills and acceleration that drink the amber liquid. 

This was a home brew, maybe 50 to 60 years ago.  125 mpg was claimed.

Slightly more recently. COMMERCIAL MOTOR (I think) MAGAZINE put a Citroen 2CV powered van (the name escapes me) through their "Four Stops per Mile" test.

Standing start ... accelerate hard to 30mpg ... cruise ... stop at the quarter mile post ... repeat ad nauseum.

The Citroen achieved 18mpg, probably because there was scarcely any cruising involved.

A Moskvich van, with a 1500cc engine (BMW copy) achieved 26mpg for the same test ... and normal running.

Different information source, the 1958 Jaguar 2.4 (Inspector Morse shape) returned 18mpg (normal driving) and 18mpg (cruising at a steady 100mpg).

The above seems to suggest that an IC (or CI) engine running at a steady speed, coupled to a electric generator to smooth the "humps" demanded of a battery powered vehicle, has much to commend it.

What's the fuel consumption of an electro-diesel railway locomotive .... steady speed, no hills, and gentle accelaration ... but heavy? And will it fit into an S2?

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Overtaken by Gareth ...

You’d think with the name E-Up! it would be made in Yorkshire!!

Should I copyright the model name ..... "Ekky-Thump" ?
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