Print

[nathanglasgow]

Are they really that rare?

auction: #303388783480

[Porkscratching]

Just another chancer, ... i expect you could buy a Merlin engine for that much!..

[GlenAnderson]

Just another chancer, ... i expect you could buy a Merlin engine for that much!..

I don't think so somehow...

https://online.handh.co.uk/m/lot-details/index/catalog/118/lot/45846/

[Rambler]

I’ve a series one engine in my garage.  I’d be happy if someone gave me a tenth of the 8k they are asking 

[w3526602]

Hi Rambler,

That reminds me of the story of a Hispano Suiza (sp?) that had been fitted with a more modern engine ... that was fast approachiing "it's" EOL.

A local farmer mentioned that that there was an engine that might fit lying in his duck pond.

The engine was dragged out of the smelly water ... and found to be the cars original engine.

602

[582LTR]

Not wanting to argue but... whilst acceptably on the expensive side, if it is not just a paint brush restoration to make it pretty, the cost of new parts to rebuild an engine or to have cranks ground and bores attended to you can start, if professionally done, to get half way there without too much effort. If it is an early engine that can add value.

I agree it is expensive but unfortunately how many things are going.

Martin

[rustylandrovers]

I know a guy who has sent off the engine from his 80 for a rebuild. The quote was fairly eye watering. Not £8k right enough, but if someone doesn't have an engine already and REALLY wants a rebuilt one for an 80 I can see that selling.

It's a lot in the context of old land rovers, not that much in the context of a rebuilt engine for a classic car.

[w3526602]

Hi,

The Rover 60 from the early 1950s used a very similar engine to the Land Rover 80". Probably a rarer engine, but who know, it may be worth asking in their club. In the 1960s, the Rover Car Club were reputed to have fields full of "spares" cars.

I did once ask my mate Ritul (in Mumbai) about S1 parts, but he said they knew what they'd got ... and were keeping them. He did offer to help with spares for Mahindras. Ritul phoned me last year, while driving up North to by a gear-cutting tool from Liverpool. He seemed quite impressed with the traffic on our motorways.

Ritul is a JAIN. Google ... and be impressed.

602
     

[oilstain]

I know a guy who has sent off the engine from his 80 for a rebuild. The quote was fairly eye watering. Not £8k right enough, but if someone doesn't have an engine already and REALLY wants a rebuilt one for an 80 I can see that selling.

It's a lot in the context of old land rovers, not that much in the context of a rebuilt engine for a classic car.

I also know of 2 people who had 2.0L engines rebuilt for 5/6k and they had bought the engines to start with at over a £1000 each
So if a good rebuild £8000 is not that much over the top

[Peter Holden]

Rover 60 engines drop straight into a Series 1 right across all the years.
Peter

[gvo416j R.I.P.]

Last year I was amazed when a mate sold 2 series one engines which had been lying out in all weathers [one without the head fitted] for £900 plus.

Back in the 1970's when I started doing land rover trials the prize upgrade was a rover 60 alloy cylinder head --- how times have changed

[Formerlyjeremy]

There are problems with piston availabilty for the Rover ioe engines - which I suppose is hardly surprising given their strange shape.  The 2 litre, 3 litre and later 7 bearing 2.6 litre (used in Land Rovers) engines have a common bore.  The others of which it can (almost) be said that no 2 had the same capacity don't. 

There are problems with the valve gear - new camshafts seem to be available and the rockers can be re-surfaced with varying degrees of success when worn.  Curiously the timing chain is the same as that used on OHV engines.

That engine has a by-pass oil filter - which means white metal bearing shells - and (for the 2 litre) - siamised bores.  This engine was used in the 2 litre 80in and the first (1st year?) of 86in production.

As an aside a genuine new by-pass oil filter costs nearly as much! - Try fitting it - even with the engine on the bench its nearly impossible!

[oilstain]

As an aside a genuine new by-pass oil filter costs nearly as much! - Try fitting it - even with the engine on the bench its nearly impossible!

I have one of these engines in my early 1954 series one and bought a spin on conversion kit to improve oil/filter changes but still not a easy job, the spread bore engine I also have as a spare is a little easier

[Peter Holden]

I am looking for a reasonably priced spreadbore to put in my 1958 S2 to replace the S3 diesel that the previous owner fitted.

Peter

[Worf]

Parts for these engines are expensive, if you can find them and £4-6k for a complete rebuild is par for the course if you get someone else to do it. I notice however that this engine seems to have been "stripped and checked" only 

I have a 1418 engine I had fully reconditioned which is in my S1, whilst I was collecting bits for its original engine (now also rebuilt). I should really swap them back over some day.