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General Discussion / Re: 109 v 88
Last post by NoBeardNoTopKnot - Today at 07:19 AM
Shall we be blunt? Many of you won't like these words because what's said is true of the bulk of owners.

You'll see far more LWB Ford Transit/ Merc Sprinters - this over the SWB variants.

We should rarely see 88s. Only 88s are the survivors. How so?

In all respects except turning-circle and parking/storing -  a 109 is superior.
The 109 was never the rare one, the 109 sold in equal or larger numbers. Sadly, "It's the tool for the job' and a 'workhorse' - with variations on the same - prevail. Precisely because that's what today's Series LR clearly isn't.

It's broadly about vanity. Today's standard owner does not have the mindset of the first owner. He's a poseur. Pondering the 'correct' wiper-blade arm for 1962 is the end-game. Evidence the weekly tyre-thread. Tyres are replaced because they're old, not because they're worn out. When you don't go anywhere. tyre-thread Nigel justifies old tyres because there's no need for new.  Of course there are exceptions amongst us, some of us will have 8000+ miles this year to show, yet we are few.

No one calls today's Ford Transit/ Merc Sprinter a 'workhorse' because they don't use it, and do a firewood &/or tip-run once in a blue. That'd be ridiculous, yet no one laughs when that's said on here.  And a Ford Transit/ Merc Sprinter is a LWB because their owners are not in a "I won't admit it, only I'm faking it" mindset.

In 50 years time I suspect any Ford Transit/ Merc Sprinter found will be the rarer SWB.

Market-gardeners, our 109 has been in the family since new. If today's Series owner was the original owner, the stats would show different survival rates. In short, the reason to own a Series LR has changed - this whilst pretending it hasn't. The results favours the 88.

#2
General Discussion / Re: 109 v 88
Last post by w3526602 - Today at 05:35 AM
Hi,

 
If you want a rare SWB, seek out an 81"!

I believe they made 200 ... half with a Rover Engine, half with the Rolls Royce engine from the Champ ... for Army "suitability" trials ... interchangeability of spares, etc.

I can't remember why they decided they didn't want the Champ.  ???

602 (Who contrived to squeeze a BMC 2.2TD into a Champ ... about 50 years ago ... and found it was cheaper to run than Barbara's Hillman Imp, but only because diesel cost a lot less than petrol per gallon)
#3
General Discussion / Re: Question what will it be t...
Last post by Uffddd - Today at 03:31 AM
You could probably get the most money by disassembling it and selling the gauges separately. I believe those early style fuel and amp gauges are rather rare if functional.
#4
General Discussion / Re: 109 v 88
Last post by Archie - Today at 01:33 AM
To paraphrase Ringo Starr:
88s are more popular because more people like them 🤔

Simples.
#5
General Discussion / Re: 109 v 88
Last post by Alan Drover - Yesterday at 10:37 PM
Don't worry about what others may think. It's your vehicle, your choice and if others don't like it that's their hard luck.
I don't care what others think about my Series 3, it's all mine.
#6
General Discussion / Re: 109 v 88
Last post by Peter Holden - Yesterday at 09:37 PM
The one they should have built was the 100 inch, there was  aphoto of a S1 100" pickup prototype but I cant find it

Peter
#7
General Discussion / Re: 109 v 88
Last post by Gres - Yesterday at 09:05 PM
Once you are actually driving around there are a surprising number of people who notice, some even nod or wave. Anything other than a modern bland black blob is quite unusual.
#8
General Discussion / Re: 109 v 88
Last post by cswagon - Yesterday at 09:01 PM
As you've already got both why don't you get them both on the road then make your own mind up.
I've owned 3 80", 2 86" and too many 88" to remember but once I drove a 109 I wouldn't drive anything else.
Being my only transport, they're so much more useful for what I carry and in my opinion so much smoother without all the bucking up and down.
They aren't as easy to manoeuvre but that's easily off-set against the rest.
But then everyone has their own opinion and needs, and not many use it as their daily.
#9
General Discussion / Re: 109 v 88
Last post by Bigdog - Yesterday at 08:56 PM
It would just be nice to have something that's classed as a classic and not just an old Land Rover running down the road, that's where I think the 109 differs from the 88
#10
General Discussion / Re: 109 v 88
Last post by Wittsend - Yesterday at 08:44 PM
It's the way you are thinking ...

You're not doing it up for other people, it's for you !
You shouldn't be worrying about what other people think - life's too short.

 :hinges